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1 Test rode a Tracer on Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:13 pm

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Well, despite what I just said to Dave in another thread, I managed a test ride on Friday, thanks to getting a job finished off on Thursday and nothing I could rearrange for Friday.
Went up to CMC for a new coat, and the Yamaha Tracer demo was available. Nice day, why not?
So off I went up toards Owler Bar. First impression-nice riding position, snatchy throttle response at urban speeds, so despite the seating position not that nice to drive in town I reckon. By the time I hit the countryside, I realised that my bum was already wriggling about. Not that comfy then. Hitting the gas at speed, it goes nicely. Great exhaust note too. Brakes are good, powerful but progressive. Coming back I came down a couple of bumpy B roads towards Chesterfield, and realised that it felt like I was riding a pogo stick. Honestly, my Speed Triple is nicer to ride over bumpy roads. So TBH the last five miles or so to Clay Cross, all I wanted to do was get off. Massive disappointment, I really thought this bike was going to tick all the boxes. Getting back on a 13 year old VFR was bliss. What a bummer. Will try the Kawasaki Versys, also looked at the Triumph XRT, but they don't convince me. Rather have a Tiger Sport actually. Smile



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2 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:32 pm

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well I never believe all the hype when a new bike comes out, seems lots of manufacturers have lumpy throttle action nowadays trying to keep emissions down at the cost of rideability. one of my m8's had the 650 versys up Scotland and I followed him for a while I could not believe it was the 650 what a good motor,and seemed to handle well the 1000 must be great. got to be worth a try.

3 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:39 pm

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as ian says with throttle my duke suffers with being a bit snatchy in towns everyone says lambda eliminate it and it solves that its due to keeping emissions down.

but shame it didnt suit you, one of those things its all personal preference.

4 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:47 pm

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Probably no worse bike than my VFR for snatchiness at low throttle. I disconnected the PAIRS sensor and disconnected the snorkel tube from the airbox. Like a different bike. Smile

5 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:35 am

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Owned the a MT-09 SR for just under a year. Same thing most people complain about can be sorted out VERY easily.. suspension is fine once setup correctly. Did you try riding it in B mode or leave it in standard or A? B is smooth as anything!! A ride on mine would probs change your opinion ( if you can put up with the noise from a full 3-1 arrow race exhaust ) lol I have got a o2 optimizer fitted which richens it up a fair bit, and 50.6mpg if hooning in A mode isn't bad fuel economy!

6 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:55 pm

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Yes, I'm sure the Tracer is a beter bike than it appeared. I checked the suspension, chain etc when I got back, which is more interest than the dealer showed. He knows they'll sell so I don't matter. But that seat is not a thing of beauty. I'll try Kawasaki and Triumph. One thing I will say, both dealers showed more interest than CMC could muster. Smile

7 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:40 pm

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the new versys 1000 is supposed to be a belter but way out my price league and I don't do finance - if I aint got the cash I wont buy

I quite like the guzzi norge hide

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8 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:44 pm

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dick65 wrote:the new versys 1000 is supposed to be a belter but way out my price league and I don't do finance - if I aint got the cash I wont buy

I quite like the guzzi norge hide

Mate, I've had a thing for Guzzi since the Le Mans and T3. But I need Japanese I reckon, as I plan hammering it up and down the country fully loaded. Probably trust a Triumph, but Italian might need too much faith. Very Happy

One of these followed me through Via Gellia a while back. Looked really good on the road

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9 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:52 pm

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redcar are doing bran new bandit 1250 for £6199 on the road , told me the would do me a straight swap for the king


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10 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:58 pm

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I reckon there more reliable than Ducati's Alan Laughing but yeah ive got a soft spot for guzzi's as well .... and Laverda's thumbs
but I do like the reliability of jap bikes m8


Dave you had a go on the gsx 1250 Fa ?



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11 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:00 pm

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yes dick , not a patch on my king, I test rode one before the buying the king , TBH liked my old bandit better


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12 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:05 pm

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yeah not a patch on the king but a damn good workhorse fast agile and the torques addictive thumbs

heard a lot of folk say that but I think its due to the power curve being more linear

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13 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:14 pm

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dick65 wrote:yeah not a patch on the king but a damn good workhorse fast agile and the torques addictive thumbs

heard a lot of folk say that but I think its due to the power curve being more linear
don't know how this new one compares ? is it the same bike ?


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14 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:22 pm

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they changed in 2010 which is the one I have (gsx fully faired) so think there the same engine just the new ones the bandit gsf half faired
80ft of torque at 3000 revs thumbs

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15 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:26 pm

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dick65 wrote:they changed in 2010 which is the one I have (gsx fully faired) so think there the same engine just  the new ones the bandit gsf half faired
80ft of torque at 3000 revs thumbs
thumbs like you say bloody good bike for £6199 otr


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16 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:37 pm

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there a bargain m8 and a lot of bike for the money thumbs thumbs

theres not a lot of new bikes out there that do it for me and im done with sports bikes thumbs

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17 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:46 pm

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dick65 wrote:there a bargain m8 and a lot of bike for the money thumbs thumbs

theres not a lot of new bikes out there that do it for me and im done with sports bikes thumbs
thread hijacked sorry Alan , I plan to use the king for a few more years yet till it has high mileage, then buy something new again , god knows what will be about then and how well I will be to ride by then , we will see when the time comes


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18 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:48 pm

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yeah sorry Alan Laughing but what exactly is a Tracer scratch

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19 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:54 pm

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Similarly, I don't see too many bikes that I really think I could own. Plenty I like, but ownership is a different animal.
Tracer is a Yamaha triple, bit of a sit up tourer type thing. Very cheap for what it offers. Now I know why!

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20 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:13 pm

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right im with you now m8 looks like a beefed up TDM which is no bad thing - Yamaha have a record for quirky - but why they have to strangle a bikes performance due to emissions laws beats me and then us the customer has to spend a packet rectifying it - Volkswagen nearly got round it though Wink

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21 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:51 pm

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Davehutch wrote:
dick65 wrote:there a bargain m8 and a lot of bike for the money thumbs thumbs

theres not a lot of new bikes out there that do it for me and im done with sports bikes thumbs
thread hijacked  sorry Alan ,    I plan to use the king for a few more years yet till it has high mileage, then buy something new again , god knows what will be about then and how well I will be to ride by then , we will see when the time comes  
i bet it will be a turbo diesel with 200 bhp and 100 mpg Shocked

22 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:23 am

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Have a look at the 15+ crossrunner as well. More power than the old VFR800 engine, v-tec moved slightly higher in the revs so it doesn't annoy the shit out of ya! seat is much nicer than the tracer.

23 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:48 pm

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has the gear box improved on modern Yams?

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24 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:56 pm

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Oh yes!! my MT-09 is smooth as silk, and our old FJR ( 12/13 reg's ) were smooth as well. Still get the nice clunk into first though lol.

25 Re: Test rode a Tracer on Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:37 pm

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good to hear matt thumbs my Ace was a bit agricultural lol - must say im impressed with my Suzuki gear box thumbs

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